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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 00:39:00 -
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You mean players will have to decide if it worth it to claim space and upgrade it based on income and logistics?
The audacity of CCP!!!
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 00:47:00 -
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Edited by: Marlona Sky on 08/11/2009 00:54:02 YES OR NO: Due to the increased tears and emo rage in this thread, 0.0 should be more - not as - profitable (in raw isk/h) than highsec L4 mission running.
EDIT: Fixed spelling of emo so goons wont troll me, oh wait...
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Qlanth If anyone knows about holding 0.0 space its Triumvirate.
Oh wait!
We hold what we want, not take space just for the sake of taking it to make our sovereignty on the map bigger.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Korodan
Originally by: Mrs Trzzbk
Originally by: Marlona Sky YES OR NO: Due to the increased tears and emmo rage in this thread, 0.0 should be more - not as - profitable (in raw isk/h) than highsec L4 mission running.
What the hell is emmo?
I think it's some extinct giant kiwi from New Zealand.
mmmm.... kiwi....
But yes, I agree, 0.0 players on average should make more isk/hr than a high sec lvl 4 mission runner.
Further tweaking of this expansion based on solid player feedback is needed. If only CCP would state that they will do this then maybe we can all stop theory crafting on what is to come... oh wait...
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Sarmiang Edited by: Sidus Sarmiang on 08/11/2009 01:00:51 Edited by: Sidus Sarmiang on 08/11/2009 01:00:28
Originally by: Marlona Sky YES OR NO: Due to the increased tears and emmo rage in this thread, 0.0 should be more - not as - profitable (in raw isk/h) than highsec L4 mission running.
1 time I spent 9 hours ratting and only made .4 billion isk. Why should 1 have to go to nullsec where there is at least 9 times the risk but the same rewards as a level.4 mission. As it is, I only get to spend about 19.4% of my time PvPing, even though I'd like to do it a lot more. But unfortunately, CCP only seems to listen to the 19 or so sycophant posters out of the hundreds in this thread that dislike the changes. I bet that's only 0.4% of the people. Oh well, I'm training a mission runner alt for 0.0 missions at least. Only 19 hours until he reaches Amarr Battleships level 4. I don't know though, I don't know what I'll be doing nineteen days from now, four months from now, or one year, nine months, and four days from now, but if these changes go through I can say there's at least a nineteenpointfourpercent chance I'll quit.
At least you will always have a 100% chance of failing at trolling.
But like I said above, YES, running lvl 4 missions in empire should yield less ISK than those in 0.0 farming.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 01:24:00 -
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So if the proposed numbers on paying for 'xyz' upgrade or whatever are too high, what would be more on par??
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Sarmiang
Originally by: Marlona Sky So if the proposed numbers on paying for 'xyz' upgrade or whatever are too high, what would be more on par??
The problem isn't the costs so much as the rewards. Their idea is that, with full upgrades to a system, we can make approximately as much per hour as a person doing level 4 missions in highsec. This is assuming that no one is competing with you or holding anomalies open by hanging around in them cloaked. The costs would be fine if the rewards justified them. As it is, the only cost these rewards justify is less than we're paying now, especially with the reduced moon mining income.
The other thing is, why should we pay for upgrades when we can just roam and run other alliances upgrades stuff/whatever and gain the benefits without having to pay for it. I dunno. With this new system they should be able to add more 'upgrades' and adjust cost without too much programming right? (sorry, don't know much about programming so... )
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 02:13:00 -
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I dunno, I think we can all agree that when Dominion hits, things will be 'interesting' to see how 0.0 reacts and adapts to these changes.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Aralis Edited by: Aralis on 08/11/2009 02:56:25 Supporters of this patch are coming out with bizarre dribble.
"You should cooperate more.." "You shouldn't hog so much space and let others in.." "You'll have to stop living off all that R64 moon goo.."
If these are the problems - why are we (the CVA) to whom none of these statements apply - the alliance getting shafted the worst by this patch?
Can't make an omlet without cracking a few eggs.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 03:43:00 -
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Why are goons crying the most of this?
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 04:12:00 -
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Edited by: Marlona Sky on 08/11/2009 04:13:39
Originally by: Korodan
Originally by: Destrim
Originally by: Inferno Styx I like the idea of gate guns as well. As long as you can take them out of action. POS guns would work perfectly for this, Never thought about using them.
There we go!
Military infrastructure upgrade...
"Advanced Sentry Gun Augmentation: Allows the anchoring of one POS sentry gun per sov level around the gate of this system." (or some wording like that) So, a total of 5 sentry guns, maybe? Or perhaps POS guns would be a bad idea... I have no idea how one would manage power to them, or if it would be a concern even, much less ammo... maybe a special sort of gun related to infrastructure upgrades? *shrugs*
Normal POS guns would be fine as long as you were limited to "vanilla" guns - no warp disruption equipment or NOS/neuts (webs would just make it easier for the enemy to warp off) and possibly no ECM. Just say they sip power off the gate or some **** like that. Also, allow stations to have guns too.
So anyone not blue to the gate / station guns that is in a cruiser and smaller is fubar if they have to fight on a gate / station?
Why are goons crying the most over the new sovereignty changes?
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: EdFromHumanResources
Originally by: Lucas Pantelis Why would you take space from your enemies when the financial burden of it hurts them more than a loss of sov?
This is why you don't take it, you just render it unusuable by sitting cloakers in the system so they get the bill AND no benefit.
Time to train up covert ops skill!!!
Why are goons crying the most over the new sovereignty changes?
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Irongut [ ] YES OR [XXX] NO: Due to the increased risk and logistics effort required, 0.0 should be more - not as - profitable (in raw isk/time/effort) than highsec L4 mission running.
Why are goons crying the most over the new sovereignty changes?
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 07:42:00 -
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Honestly though, we really could do with some constructive input and predictions from SnotShot...
Why are goons crying the most over the new sovereignty changes?
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.08 23:07:00 -
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I remember when they did the dev blog on the carrier nerf, the thread went over 100 pages, and then they announced it was not happening. Keep posting those tears!!... well, you know what I mean. From the looks of this threadnought, I am having doubts that it will be implemented as is.
Keep posting constructive feedback.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.09 05:07:00 -
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22 days till TOTAL HELL DEATH!!!
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.09 05:54:00 -
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If they moved all level 4 mission agents to low sec, would that boost low sec and bring more balance to the 0.0 vs. High sec risk vs. reward?
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.09 12:26:00 -
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Maybe there is another dev blog coming that was supposed to be posted with this one and it will all make sense right?
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.09 19:59:00 -
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Maybe they accidentally hit the zero one too many times.
This ocean of tears thread, best thread.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.10 06:57:00 -
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What the eve community needs is an elected body by the players that voices concerns to CCP. People that 'represent' the eve community. People that tell CCP what we want to see and not be there for selfish reasons and such. People that truly want to represent the EVE community and not want just free stuff like trips to events and things.
What do you guys think?
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.10 13:06:00 -
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ENOUGH! Adapt or die. It is in fact that simple.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.10 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Harlon Cross ***BREAKING NEWS***
Linkage
Definitely some good insight on the upcoming changes there.
Pretty much that tbfh. And my sig!
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.10 20:27:00 -
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Adapt or die.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.11 04:53:00 -
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Like I have been saying...
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.11 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zastrow Our dream for Dominion was that lucrative upgrades meant people lived in 0.0 instead of running L4 missions. Lucrative 0.0 upgrades means carebears are happy. More people actually living in 0.0 means more targets for combat players. People playing in the 0.0 sandbox means emergent gameplay so the developers are happy.
Unless 0.0 individual player income generation is lucrative and JUST WORTH IT, then you don't have carebears in 0.0. No carebears means no targets. No targets means pvpers leave. No emergent gameplay. Nobody's happy, everything sucks.
It all starts with making 0.0 profitable on the individual level. so there ok i just rehashed exactly what i said to ccp months ago, can we actually move forward now
Zas, seriously, what happened? Did CCP just go in some completely different direction? During the Fanfest they said that the sov changes they took some ideas from you CSM, but is this it? Also, Helen Highwater stated that many of the upcoming changes in this expansion including the sov changes were spear-headed by Darius Johnson. What gives? I mean if this is what goons wanted to happen then why???
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